Trusts, negative gearing and debt recycling: a live Q&A with James Phelan

Owen Rask and James Phelan unpack trusts, negative gearing, CGT, debt recycling and what the latest tax changes could mean for investors.

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In this live episode of Australian Investors Podcast, Owen Rask teams up with James Phelan to unpack the tax and wealth changes investors are trying to make sense of right now. Recorded in front of a live audience at Ultra Meetup, this conversation cuts through the headlines and focuses on what actually matters if you own property, invest through a trust, or are weighing up shares, super and debt.

Owen and James break down the proposed changes to family trusts and bucket companies, why negative gearing and capital gains tax have become such a flashpoint, and how debt recycling is being interpreted more tightly after recent ATO guidance. They also explore what these shifts could mean for SMSFs, geared ETFs, gifting to kids, sequencing risk and the broader question facing many Australians: if the old playbook is changing, what should thoughtful investors do next?

Rather than offering scare campaigns or silver bullets, this episode is a practical Q&A on how to think through the new rules, the trade-offs they create and the strategies people are likely to revisit as the policy landscape evolves. If you want a grounded take on trusts, property, CGT and wealth-building after the latest Budget proposals, this is a timely listen.

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