Should I DIY my super? Q&A with Hayden Smith

Owen Rask and Hayden Smith unpack DIY super, SMSFs, HINs, custodial models, ETFs, brokerage fees and wealth-building trade-offs.

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Australian Finance Podcast host Owen Rask sits down with Hayden Smith from Pearler to answer one of the biggest questions investors ask once they get serious about money: should you take more control of your super, or leave it alone?

Using listener questions as the backbone, they unpack the practical differences between large super funds, direct investment options and self-managed super funds, then explain where people often get tripped up by acronyms, fees and structure. That includes HIN versus custodial models, whether brokerage costs really matter, what ETFs inside super can and cannot solve, and why an SMSF is not automatically the smarter move just because it feels more hands-on.

The conversation also widens into the trade-offs Australians face when building wealth more broadly, including leverage, investment property stress, negative gearing and the temptation to over-optimise every financial decision. Throughout the episode, Owen and Hayden keep coming back to the same idea: good investing should be simple enough to stick with, even when life gets messy.

If you have ever wondered whether to DIY your super, compare brokers, or rethink how much control you really need, this episode will help you sort the signal from the noise. It is a practical reminder that the best setup is usually the one you understand well enough to keep using for years.

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