Part 4/5 of the Passive Income series on The Australian Investors Podcast features me — Owen Rask — and Drew Meredith, CFP.
Drew and I walk through a full case study (see below) of a fictitious Australian couple, Ralph (52) & Jane (51), looking to generate passive income from a diversified portfolio. The result: Drew predicts this couple could retire on a generous yearly income if they can get to $1.2 – $1.6 million of investable assets before retirement.
Does that sound like a crazy figure? Not so fast…
Drew explains all of his findings and analysis in this episode of The Australian Investors Podcast.
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The case study – Ralph & Jane
Jane (51) and Ralph (52) live in Brighton-Le-Sands, New South Wales in a 4 bedroom, 2 bathroom house. Ralph is a sticky-fingered accountant, earning $110,000. He loves the Hawthorn Hawks in the AFL (obviously) and spends his weekends watching their two boys play sports. Jane is a Midwife in Sydney, working 7 days of night shift every fortnight. She earns $115,000, also on PAYG. Jane uses some of her days off to volunteer at the Foodbank, encouraging her two sons to get married and have children.
Financial picture
Assets:
- Super:
- Ralph annuation: $340,000
- Jane: $260,000
- House in Brighton-Le-Sands: $1.4 million
- Investment portfolio of $185,000:
- Argo LIC – $35,000
- VAS ETF – $50,000
- IVV ETF – $30,000
- Magellan ETF – $20,000
- BHP – $25,000
- CBA – $20,000
- Crypto ETF – $5,000
- Cash & TDs: $70,000
- Offset account: $35,000
Liabilities:
- Mortgage: $450,000
- Credit card: $8,000
- Two boys (17 & 19) – both living at home, for 1-2 more years
- Car loan: $34,000
Other:
- Insurance is held inside Super
- Ralph is an only child and could be expected to inherit $300,000 in 5-10 years
Goals:
- They’ve heard they could retire and earn a passive income of around 4% per year, after inflation. They’re hoping to earn between $60,000 – $80,000 in income (today’s dollars)
- Both want to retire between 60 and 65, debt-free (that’s ~10-15 years)
- They don’t want to move or sell their house, but would be open to downsizing after retirement or once the kids have moved out
- Being an accountant, Ralph is risk-averse so he is much more concerned about capital loss than Jane – she is a high risk/growth investor
- Jane & Ralph would like to spend 4 weeks per year on a holiday, locally and internationally after 60 (i.e. every other year they go to Europe, NZ, etc. — not lavish, but comfortable)
- Jane would like to build wealth outside of Super and the house, Ralph likes the tax-advantaged status of Super
My questions for Drew:
- Logistically, how does a financial planner take a client(s) from this to a well-structured portfolio? (i.e. the financial planning process)
- Would you say Ralph & Jane have a typical financial situation for their age?
- What are the 2-3 “easy wins” for Ralph & Jane?
- For Jane, would you recommend building an investment portfolio outside Super?
- For Ralph, would you recommend building an investment portfolio outside Super?
- General question: at what age does the risk of allocating to Super (i.e. money being locked away) get overcome by the benefits? I.e. Would you advise a 30 or 40yo to use Super as their primary wealth vehicle?
- Would you advise paying down debt or using the equity in other ways (e.g. line of credit)?
- Could Ralph & Jane grow their portfolio in other ways?
- What balance of wealth ($$$) would Ralph & Jane need to retire with passive income at 63? Explain.
- How would you advise they invest now (SAA)?
- What types of returns could they expect over the next 10+ years? (maybe a chart of wealth would help)
- At retirement, how would their portfolio look in terms of diversification?
- Would/should they keep working, even part-time?
- Do you believe Jane & Ralph have a realistic expectation of retiring debt-free and with $60-80k in annual income?
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